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. >> shep, that's the great unknown in all of this fiscal cliff fighting. some argue the country won't be badly damaged if the country hits the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the unemployment rate coming down, listen, that can be reversed if people lose confidence in our future. >> the number two senate ranked democrat mr. temperature bib argues next week will be critical in terms of president obama and speaker boehner finding a compromise. shep? >> shepard: democrats are still saying what they have said all along and what the president ran on this is about taxes. >> that is true and they note president obama campaigned on upper income americans paying more so they intend to make sure that happens. the house democratic leader says the only obstacle is republican
. >> shep, that's the great unknown in all of this fiscal cliff fighting. some argue the country won't be badly damaged if the country hits the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats keep arguing into the new year. others are worried failure to strike a deal could send the nation back into a recession. >> i think people understand the failure to compromise and going over the cliff could really jeopardize this recovery. the good news today about more people back at work, the...
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the fiscal cliff is fixable. every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being done. john king, ken rogath is the former chief economist at the international monetary fund and diane swonk joins us from mezro financial. john, some people say don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> both sides digging in. you played the president saying, i want that rate hike. the republicans say we'll give you the revenues but not through a rate hike. the president believes he won the election and he upped the ante saying he wants twice as much in tax revenues than he wanted a year and a half ago. the president believes he has higher ground under this. i think maybe the democrats have a deeper trench, if you will. they have public opinion on their side. if you talk to people in washington there is a sense that at the last minute reason will prevail. there is a not a lot of optimism. you know this and my colleagues know it better than i do. more people are talking
the fiscal cliff is fixable. every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being done. john king, ken rogath is the former chief economist at the international monetary fund and diane swonk joins us from mezro financial. john, some people say don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, what do you see? >> both sides digging in. you played the president saying, i want that rate...
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the back and forth fiscal cliff on capitol hill has sounded more like a washington stage production of war of the world's. the myan calendar may have been correct after all. right on time, congressional republicans are crafting a doomsday scenario for the fiscal cliff. it would allow a vote on extending only the bush middle class tax cuts and nothing elseings, effectively slamming the ball into the president's court for a new year's showdown on the debt ceiling. no compromise on extending unemployment or altering the tax code for those loopholes or raising fed reral revenues. politicians are allowed to thrive off of our democratic life blood. what is missing in light of this january 1st manufactured deadline? any talk of the very real physical foibles in our country. we have chosen to ignore the ways policies have created a governor for and by the entity. when republicans or democrats asked for top earners to pay their fair share, both sides are still ignoring it sources of the fiscal crisis. when so many americans do not make a living wage, the economy cannot recover nor can our budge
the back and forth fiscal cliff on capitol hill has sounded more like a washington stage production of war of the world's. the myan calendar may have been correct after all. right on time, congressional republicans are crafting a doomsday scenario for the fiscal cliff. it would allow a vote on extending only the bush middle class tax cuts and nothing elseings, effectively slamming the ball into the president's court for a new year's showdown on the debt ceiling. no compromise on extending...
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certainly a quiet morning in washington. maybe they are thinking about the fiscal cliff. who knows. well, our focus today and this morning is syria which is important, not just because more than 40,000 have died in the 21-month conflict but because there are new fears that the government may unleash deadly chemical weapons on its own people. that means more lives could be lost, and for americans it means that the u.s. would probably take action. president obama, secretary of state clinton and defense secretary leon panetta have warned president bashar al assad that using chemical weapons crosses the red line. >> the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. >> so the question is what would that action look like? cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr has a look. >> reporter: randi, for defense secretary leon panetta, the major priority now is to try to determine syria's intent. does it intend to use chemical weapons? with the u.s. now believing the syrian government has chemical weapon-filled bombs, cnn has learned the pentagon is secretl
certainly a quiet morning in washington. maybe they are thinking about the fiscal cliff. who knows. well, our focus today and this morning is syria which is important, not just because more than 40,000 have died in the 21-month conflict but because there are new fears that the government may unleash deadly chemical weapons on its own people. that means more lives could be lost, and for americans it means that the u.s. would probably take action. president obama, secretary of state clinton and...
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my next guest is concerned that we are going over the fiscal cliff. he says, president obama seemingly is intent on pressing his post-election advantage to win tax increases on the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of the financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe they're going over the cliff. >> i think their is a real danger of this. one can see a path for obaaa that does not look so terrible if we do go over the cliff. all of the taxes go up, but the democrats have an opportunity to introduce legislation to redue the taxes for 98 percent of the people leaving the wealthier people, i guess you could call them wealthy, the top two percentage to stay at the high rates. it is possible to do this. lou: it is possible, but i have to ask you, surely the republicans have to understand and had to understand six months ago what what transpired in this
my next guest is concerned that we are going over the fiscal cliff. he says, president obama seemingly is intent on pressing his post-election advantage to win tax increases on the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of the financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe they're going over the...
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economy if washington fails to come up with the solution. and joining me now, angela mcglowan, a fox news political analyst and doug cornell, a former spokesperson for the democratic congressional campaign committee and a democratic strategist. great to see both of you. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> doug, you first, president obama and his weekly address this weekend says that democrats have some wiggle room on what they're willing to give to get a deal done. what are they willing to give? >> well, first of all, remember that as part of the budget control act the president signed into law about a trillion dollars in cuts and right now the president's priority is to pass a middle class tax cut and benefit 97% of small businesses, and that's the first priority and then, obviously, second part is to deal with the fiscal cliff and he's put entitle and spending cuts on the table and i think really, the issue here is whether republicans are going to be on the tax rates for the upper income folks. if that happens i think we'll have an agree
economy if washington fails to come up with the solution. and joining me now, angela mcglowan, a fox news political analyst and doug cornell, a former spokesperson for the democratic congressional campaign committee and a democratic strategist. great to see both of you. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> doug, you first, president obama and his weekly address this weekend says that democrats have some wiggle room on what they're willing to give to get a deal done. what are they...
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taxes and not spending cuts in averting the fiscal cliff. >> the facts are that at this point the 39.6% does produce the revenue. the differentiation between the 39 pin 6% and the 28% that the president has for limitation or deductions creates a great deal of money as well. >> one conservative commentator suggested the out come of the fiscal talks won't be the end of the world. >> we will have taxes which are roughly the same as they were underon. we did fine in that. we will do fine. >> the question is whether these negotiations will lead to making other tough choices such as washington getting a handle on the growth of government. if not the european example seems to suggest huge fiscal trouble coming to our shores as well. mike emmanuel, fox news. >>> here is a doozie of a story. a baby mix up at a minneapolis hospital results in a new mother breastfeeding another woman's baby. i told you it was a doozie. the woman given the wrong infant realized that something was not right. >> when they brought cody she thought to herself it didn't look like her other baby. but her husband reassure
taxes and not spending cuts in averting the fiscal cliff. >> the facts are that at this point the 39.6% does produce the revenue. the differentiation between the 39 pin 6% and the 28% that the president has for limitation or deductions creates a great deal of money as well. >> one conservative commentator suggested the out come of the fiscal talks won't be the end of the world. >> we will have taxes which are roughly the same as they were underon. we did fine in that. we will...
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. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm sandy couldn't wipe away his home, but something else did. >> she said are you sure your house is gone. miss, you misplace a pen or pencil, you don't misplace a house. >> clayton: vanished, that man will tell us how that house just vanished. "fox & friends" hour four starts right now. ♪ . [rooster crowing] >> welcome into "fox & friends" on this saturday morning, thanks so much for waking up with us. this is ainsley. >> ainsley: hi. >> clayton: in for ali and eric for dave and i'm the only one on the regular crew. >> ainsley: where did they go, to christmas parties and couldn't make it in? you never know we're focu
. >> it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, and the white house has wasted another week. >> ainsley: why speaker john boehner says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> clayton: and washington state got high, but how the anti-drug program says it won't dare teach our middle schoolers about marijuana, it's not age appropriate. do they have a point? we report, you decide. >> eric: and super storm...
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where tonight we're no closer to compromise on a deal to avoid that show called fiscal cliff. >> it was also warm in the nation's capital despite the chill between democrats and republicans. >> president obama dug in his heels insisting on tax increase or higher earners. >> and they both agree he that the other's proposals are ridiculous. >> just a sampling of the coverage this week as the media keep a watch on what's done or not to avert the fiscal cliff. >> jim shall the overriding theme in the media seems to be that president obama won the election and therefore should do what he wants and the media seems to forget na john boehner and everyone else won their elections as well and they're a co-equal branch of government. >> i think the media loves the story of president obama's comeback and the new york time describes him as disciplined and unyielding and focused on this and i think there are other media stories as well. the second media story or narrative. which one wants to grow by virtue of the tax increases and get new perspective from the mainstream media and the third is mcc
where tonight we're no closer to compromise on a deal to avoid that show called fiscal cliff. >> it was also warm in the nation's capital despite the chill between democrats and republicans. >> president obama dug in his heels insisting on tax increase or higher earners. >> and they both agree he that the other's proposals are ridiculous. >> just a sampling of the coverage this week as the media keep a watch on what's done or not to avert the fiscal cliff. >> jim...
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cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what
cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put...
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that follows the legalization of marijuana in colorado and washington and a fiscal cliff battle up to the majority of americans calling for higher taxes on the rich. joining me now for strategy talk, karen finney, msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and chip saltsman, republican strategist and former manager of mike huckabee's presidential campaign. welcome. you look resplend end in purple, karen. are we experiencing a liberalization of america? if so what is the catalyst? >> if you take a look at both the issue landscape and the exit polling from the most recent election, i think it gives you kind of a road map as to what's going on here. i mean, we are a more diverse country. we have more diverse backgrounds and interests. we did see sort of the issue landscape with regard to the exit polling showing that people's opinions are changing on a lot of these issues. look at the millennial generation. they are far more tolerant generation, far more diverse generation. i think what this reflects is those same kind of demographic shifts that we saw manifest itself
that follows the legalization of marijuana in colorado and washington and a fiscal cliff battle up to the majority of americans calling for higher taxes on the rich. joining me now for strategy talk, karen finney, msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and chip saltsman, republican strategist and former manager of mike huckabee's presidential campaign. welcome. you look resplend end in purple, karen. are we experiencing a liberalization of america? if so what is the...
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olay pro-x. >>> now to the fight in washington over the fiscal cliff if lawmakers do not make a deal before january, the country will face a mixed bag of tax hikes and drastic spending cuts that could send the economy reeling. today on msnbc's weeks with alex witt, elijah cummings from maryland said he is getting more hopeful. >> three days ago i would have said that the chances of something being worked out were at best 20%. i feel a little bit more comfortable believing that something is going to be worked out. and give it about a 70% chance. the fact that boehner and the president have pretty much gotten to a point where they'll be sitting down, trying to work this out as opposed to a lot of cooks in the kitchen, i think that's helpful. >> with me now, joe nadler, democrat from new york. congressman, good saturday afternoon to you. thanks for coming. >> good afternoon. >> you just heard your colleague from maryland saying 70% chance that a deal gets done. what say you? >> i don't know. i just hope that if a deal is done, it is a reasonable deal. i won't vote for any deal that cuts
olay pro-x. >>> now to the fight in washington over the fiscal cliff if lawmakers do not make a deal before january, the country will face a mixed bag of tax hikes and drastic spending cuts that could send the economy reeling. today on msnbc's weeks with alex witt, elijah cummings from maryland said he is getting more hopeful. >> three days ago i would have said that the chances of something being worked out were at best 20%. i feel a little bit more comfortable believing that...
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>>> coming up, in the debate over the fiscal cliff deal, which side is winning the public opinion war? who most americans say gets the message. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and now, something extra -- for you. cliff approaching who is winning the messaging war? >> according to a new rase -- rasmusson poll, americans will insist on spending cuts and 40% think president obama will insist on only tax increases. let's bring in scott rasmusson from rasmusson reports. take us behind the numbers. what do you see here? >> the reason they are losing the war is they think it is about deficit reduction. they think it won't lead to serious deficit reduction. the president is talking about a fairness issue. since the republicans aren't engaging on that, he is winning. >> so what about raising taxes? president obama is standing firm on his position to raise taxes on the nation's top earners. how do people feel about that? joy they like that idea. -- >> they like that idea. 52% want a ca
>>> coming up, in the debate over the fiscal cliff deal, which side is winning the public opinion war? who most americans say gets the message. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and now, something extra -- for you. cliff approaching who is winning the messaging war? >> according to a new rase -- rasmusson poll, americans will insist on spending cuts and 40% think president...
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deciding how much of each is what's holding up any deals on averting the fiscal cliff. negotiations are pretty much at a standstill, but if you ask house speaker john boehner, he has an idea of who's holding things up. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be impossible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> in his weekly white house address this morning, president obama responded to boehner's remark. >> i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion dollars in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yes
deciding how much of each is what's holding up any deals on averting the fiscal cliff. negotiations are pretty much at a standstill, but if you ask house speaker john boehner, he has an idea of who's holding things up. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be impossible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> in his weekly white house address this morning,...